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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Wrong again, there's something to learn for every batsman in the team. Each just needs
    to his bit. For example at the MCG, in both Indian innings, Tendulkar topscored. Get it,
    smart ass? Next time, stop taking cheap shots without a sound understanding of the
    game.
    Top score doesn't matter if you can't take your team home.

    Legendary players win the games for their country, not be better than their team mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    If its a team game, why is Sachin singled out as a "GOD". Having 30,000 runs behind him, the guy can't score outside India? It's freaking sad...
    Whose ****in' fault is it that he's been singled out as GOD, dimwit?

    And can't score outside India, excuse me? Now you're hallucinating.
    Talk to me when you put the weed down.

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    Pssh... you are a dimwit... Guy is freakin experienced, if he cant handle pressure... he shouldn't be playing in the team. Full Stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Whose ****in' fault is it that he's been singled out as GOD, dimwit?
    Fans like you

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    Top score doesn't matter if you can't take your team home.

    Legendary players win the games for their country, not be better than their team mates.
    Top scores matter. That's what makes them legendary players. You can do your bit for the team.
    There's only so much you can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    In the second innings the sheer momentum of failure got to him with 5 wickets down for 50 odd.
    You're making me laugh

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    Floppy, go back to bed.

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    You're making me laugh
    I am? Maybe the weed is, not me.

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    What is he a 13 year old Japanese school girl....that he started crying after seeing 5 wickets down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Floppy, go back to bed.
    I am in bed... Problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    Fans like you
    Crazy fans elsewhere. Not me, for sure. I don't worship humans or anyone for that matter.
    Anyway, why does it bother you so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Crazy fans elsewhere. Not me, for sure. I don't worship humans or anyone for that matter.
    Anyway, why does it bother you so much?
    Because players like Dravid were the ones who showed up when their country needed him (hint: england); and players like Sachin were busy scratching their sweaty balls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    Because players like Dravid were the ones who showed up when their country needed him (hint: england); and players like Sachin were busy scratching their sweaty balls...
    So?

    Besides, in the England series, their averages weren't that much apart. How about Dravid in
    the scorecards I attached in SA series? How about Dravid at MCG 2011 and MCG overall?

    Dravid is actually a special case. He consumes a lot of balls and goes slow without taking
    any risk; others have to do the scoring to keep up with the opposition to make a contest
    out of it, at the risk of selflessly losing their wickets.

    If everyone in the side claimed the luxury of playing like Dravid, we'd lose every single Test.
    So in a sense, Dravid plays a very selfish game. He's typecast himself into that role.

    CoverDrive, you have a long way to go to understand Test cricket. I'd say, stick to T20 or
    doing what you clearly know a lot about - scratching your sweaty balls.

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    I am in bed... Problem?
    Good, then drink your milk and tuck yourself in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    What is he a 13 year old Japanese school girl....that he started crying after seeing 5 wickets down?
    And you're a Forum God and an Administrator? Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    And you're a Forum God and an Administrator? Ha!
    This debate's not about me

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    This debate's not about me
    It becomes one when you start saying irrelevant things about Japanese school girls and such.

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    It IS relevant that Sachin can't learn how to handle pressure despite having 20 years of experience and 30,000 runs behind him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    It IS relevant that Sachin can't learn how to handle pressure despite having 20 years of experience and 30,000 runs behind him...
    He averaged 52.5 in the game at MCG. Good enough for the team.

    Also, check out this (more relevant):
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...ry/546701.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Here we go again. Another moron taking a cheap shot. CoverDrive, you dimwit, I invite
    you to check these scores out from the 2010/2011 series India in SA:

    Second Innings of:
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-af...ch/463146.html

    Both Innings of:
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-af...ch/463148.html

    Playing left arm spin better than the national side, since the age of 12
    Kallis a minnow basher you say?
    FTB you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    Because players like Dravid were the ones who showed up when their country needed him (hint: england); and players like Sachin were busy scratching their sweaty balls...
    CoverDrive, you conveniently ignored to comment on my note on Dravid.

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    Sachin has a strike out of ~54 and Dravid has a strike of ~45 in last 3 years. I don't believe that's a big difference, at least not one that should have a negative effect on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    Sachin has a strike out of ~54 and Dravid has a strike of ~45 in last 3 years. I don't believe that's a big difference, at least not one that should have a negative effect on the team.
    Last 3 years! Ha! How convenient. Ofcourse with the advent of flat pitches and starts like the ones
    Sehwag gives us. Even so its 10 units higher.

    Post numbers of their entire career and you'll be shocked. Counter with some logic, otherwise just
    admit Dravid is a selfish player who plays riskless to ensure he gets bigs scores (albeit for the team,
    nothing wrong there) while others are busy making a contest of it.

    Accolades go to the right people for a reason, CoverDrive. You are too dumb to understand that.

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    I have never seen Sachin make a context out of anything - in fact, its Sehwag who does that sort of thing. Never seen Sachin play aggressively so we can win a game.

    As for Dravid, it is his JOB to play like that; every team has a player that has to hold an end and Dravid does that! Would you rather have 55 vs 45 strike rate or more runs? I hope you think with logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    I have never seen Sachin make a context out of anything - in fact, its Sehwag who does that sort of thing. Never seen Sachin play aggressively so we can win a game.

    As for Dravid, it is his JOB to play like that; every team has a player that has to hold an end and Dravid does that! Would you rather have 55 vs 45 strike rate or more runs? I hope you think with logic.
    Agreed and it is important to have such a player. My point is that it comes with the advantage
    that you end up scoring bigger when you're that player. Others are the ones making a match
    out of it.

    Post their strike rates from the just concluded MCG test, while you're at it.

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    Also, it is bull that every team has such a player. There is only one "Wall" for a reason. He blocks.
    I'd go as far as saying if other Test nation had a player like Dravid, they wouldn't stick with him for
    a decade.

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    A Cook also players a similar role - his SR is 49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    A Cook also players a similar role - his SR is 49.
    Ha! Cook is an opener. They're supposed to do that. Cook will soon be forgotten. :-)

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    Dravid's career SR can't be higher than 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    Ha! Cook is an opener. They're supposed to do that. Cook will soon be forgotten. :-)
    The thing is he won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    The thing is he won't.
    Yea? We can revisit this in 2 or 3 years.

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    Yeah, we already have bets on the matter. If Cook's forgotten, Dravid and Laxman will be as well.
    Playing left arm spin better than the national side, since the age of 12
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    FTB you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Yeah, we already have bets on the matter. If Cook's forgotten, Dravid and Laxman will be as well.
    I meant forgotten as in no longer a regular in the side. Obviously SRT, Dravid and Laxman
    will all be gone in 2-3 years.

    Where's the bet link?

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    English players will always be underrated, what's confusing is usually after an ass drooping the other country realise we're pretty good, that's what happened with Australia, but for some reason this hasn't happened with Indian's.



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    Quote Originally Posted by squashed.bugaboo View Post
    I meant forgotten as in no longer a regular in the side. Obviously SRT, Dravid and Laxman
    will all be gone in 2-3 years.

    Where's the bet link?
    No way will he be dropped. We've kept him the side for 6 years and he's scored heaps, only Tendulkar has scored more at his age, plus he's the vice captain. In 2-3 years he won't be dropped, he'll be captain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    English players will always be underrated, what's confusing is usually after an ass drooping the other country realise we're pretty good, that's what happened with Australia, but for some reason this hasn't happened with Indian's.

    That's not quite true. My all time favorite English players are
    Robin Smith and Graham Thorpe. Pure class. They just don't
    make them like that anymore.

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