View Poll Results: Who will end up rated as the best English all-rounder of this era?

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  • Andrew Flintoff

    4 57.14%
  • Stuart Broad

    3 42.86%
  • Tim Bresnan

    0 0%
  • Chris Woakes

    0 0%
  • Albie Morkel

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    Who will be the best pommy all-rounder (Best of a bad bunch)

    So really, I've got 2 questions here. First of all, who do you consider to be the best English all-rounder of the last 10 years? And secondly, who do you think will end up the best in 10 or so years? (see poll)

    And before CSB or Rager say, "There all ****", I'm covering myself and saying this is a pretty shoddy list so far , hopefully some of the current players can go onto bigger things.

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    Anyway, Stuart Broad in response to both for me. Discuss.
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    First of all Albie Morkel is not English, looool.

    Back to the question, Flintoff has been easily the most impressive and influential alrounder that England has had. Its because of his major inspirations that England have won big games and series, especially the Ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilannaik007 View Post
    First of all Albie Morkel is not English, looool.
    Joke option. Not everyone will get it

    I have to say I'll be very disapointed if, in 10 years, Flintoff is viewed as the best all rounder we've had since Botham.
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    Has be Flintoff from these options.

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    why is flintoff that good? hes overrated

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    Flintoff produced results. Biggest of all, he was a match-winner! You might be the best bowler/batsman in the world but if you're not a match winner, it's pointless!

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    I was tempted to vote for Albie Morkel (because he'll soon be playing for Eng if he does well) (He's South African). But Barby Doll gets my vote at the moment.

    Flintoff was rubbish and overrated. Bits and pieces player at best. A bowling average of 32 and a batting average of less than 32 isn't what I'd call a world class all rounder.
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    ^ You're an Aussie. You can't like him.

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    Well Watson is better than all of them. Pity he didn't get to play against India last summer, if he had his batting average would be ~45 and his bowling average would be like 25.
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    Funny and sadly true

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    ^ Truth Hurts man

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    For now, I see Flintoff to be the best all-rounder England has ever produced... well in my time zone that I have seen English cricket. Like Coverdrive mentioned, he was a match-winner and it is true as well. He was just like Mcgrath and Warne. He knew what he was there for and he produced results. Not many players from modern era can do that. Being an all-rounder brings greater opportunity and the way he adapted that was quite fabulous.

    As for the next 10 years, I don't know. We have to wait and see. Review in 10 years time, I would say.

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    ^ Broad has won more matches than Flintoff did.
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    Flintoof > Broad. Full stop.

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    I hate Broad probably more than any other cricketer in history, but even I think that saying Flintoff is better than Broad is silly.

    Seriously just ask Oscar how much I trash talk about Broad...
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    Broad = Sreesanth...

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    I wouldn't say Flintoff has had a much better career than Broad at the moment. Despite the majority of his career being filled up with mediocrity before he was 24 he's still been a better bowler than Flintoff. Broad will almost certainly end his career being rated better IMO, baring big injury problems.

    Flintoff is a typical person who gets highly rated by casual observers of the game. Because he could be great when the mood caught him he's incredibly memorable, and people only remember the great moments such as 2005, against Kallis in 2008, and at Lords in 2009. No one remember the averageness in 2006 and the averageness in every test in 2009 bar the Lords one. It's just the reason players like Yuvraj get rated so highly on here. I have to say I'm embarrassed how we had a team with someone averaging 32 at 6, and in the 20's at 7 (Jones) who **** were we?

    Personally I hope all in that list (except Morkel ) will go down in history as better than Flintoff. All certainly have the potential.
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    The crowds go nutz when Flintoff is bowling...

    Crowds love him. So do I!

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    Flintoff isn't any different a cricket to Bresnan to be honest. One is rated as superman, the other should be dropped from the English side. You'd be amazed who had which averages.

    I wouldn't play Flintoff if he was around now.
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    Ok! I'll play him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Flintoff isn't any different a cricket to Bresnan to be honest. One is rated as superman, the other should be dropped from the English side. You'd be amazed who had which averages.

    I wouldn't play Flintoff if he was around now.
    Flintoff turned the Ashes series around and you wouldn't play him I'm sure Englishmen are glad you weren't the captain of the team in 2005.

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    Without Flintoff's heroic, Ashes 2005 would have been just like any series from Kenya v Bangladesh to Sri Lanka v Kenya...

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    who is Chris woakes btw? never heard of him

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    ^ Obviously weren't paying attention. He's a young pommy all-rounder. I think he plays for Sussex? Anyway he has gun stats and looks really promising.

    He's cute too.
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    ok thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    He's cute too.
    Watoo's love gone?

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    ^ He's not cute on Watto's level. But he's still cute.
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    I am much cuter than Watson.

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    Impossible.
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